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10/23/1998 - 2403 (See Related VNN Stories)

Iskcon Reform Group Meeting Review


Alachua, Florida (VNN) - by Nalinikanta das

On Saturday, Oct. 3, we met in front of the ISKCON Alachua Temple; started kirtan, and attended guru-puja. After breakfast, at the Lion's Club meeting site, the room filled to capacity with about l00 devotees from Alachua and around the world. Bhagavat das offered to IRG his Srila Prabhupada murti, and we worshiped His Divine Grace with kirtan and flowers. Rasatala gave an invocation of peaceful blessings, and asked us to remember our unfortunate lives before meeting Srila Prabhupada. Nalini reminisced on Srila Prabhupada's personal instruction to him to read all the literature thoroughly, requesting that HDG's words be the ultimate authority in our discussions.

Adri-dharana das, Temple President of Calcutta, was then introduced, and spoke for a 1/2 hour on the developments in India and other places in the world, saying that many Temple leaders in India were convinced of the rittvik conclusions of The Final Order and were encouraging their Temples and congregations to stick determinedly to this path. Sundara-gopala Prabhu related similar developments in Singapore and in China. Visvamurti das (Vineet Narayan), a famous journalist and corruption-buster in India, roared for adherence to truthful dharma, and got a great ovation from the crowd.

Krsnakant Prabhu then spoke for 1 hour on the message of Final Order, stating the IRG's position as one of NO CHANGE. He said that before Srila Prabhupada physically departed in l977, "we had a perfect system, and we never received any authority to change it." Srila Prabhupada's direct response to Satsvarupa Maharaj's question on future initiations, especially after his departure, was answered by Srila Prabhupada via HDG's intention to "recommend some of you as officiating acharyas," to which TK Goswami queried, "Is that called rittvik?" and Srila Prabhupada replied "YES." This instruction was reiterated and signed into law with the July 9th letter, and confirmed in Srila Prabhupada's will. These are basic ideas that "rittvik" adherents remain committed to. Many questions and answers were raised in the afternoon session, which were replied to convincingly by Krishnakant.

The democratic nominee for Florida State House in the area, Bill Ogle (Balavanta das) injected a word of caution, asking for a temporary halt to initiations and a one-year period of deep thought on the whole guru issue, warning of a big schism in Srila Prabhupada's society. He said that the l8 members of the GBC, who were directly authorized by HDG, were clear that Srila Prabhupada's order was understood in l977 to be the current "new guru" system. The audience, however, appeared impatient with these suggestions. (Balavanta Prabhu later attended the evening dinner and reached agreement on several issues with attendees like Mayesvara and Bhutatma). Krishnakant's reply to his suggestion was that the IRG wanted to keep the GBC system in place along with whatever else HDG had ordered; however, he denied that there was a clear instruction by Srila Prabhupada to the GBC of this nature. In fact, he commented that there were only 3 people in the room with Srila Prabhupada in the relevant conversation, and that all three of them had changed their stories over the years re: the guru issue. TKG had admitted that Srila Prabhupada appointed only rittviks; Jagadisha Prabhu had vacillated on his position and then left. Satsvarupa Maharaj was no longer available for comment on the issue, despite being invited by the group. There was word that he had ordered the alternation of the May Î77 "appointment tape." Whatever this was the "absolute truth" which has guided official policy for the past 21 years, in contradiction to all we had read in Srila Prabhupada's books? Better to stick to Srila Prabhupada's direct orders, said the leaders of the conference.

There were many devotees in the audience who participated or at least listened to the thoughts of the activists present; such devotees as Kirtiraj, Ambarisa and Svaha, Naveen Krishna, Madhuha, Nadiskesvara and his dharma- patni, Kapindra and Jayadvaja Swamis, and others - forgive me if I fail to mention any names. All devotees spoke and questioned without ego or (much) agitation. Ganga Mayi and Annada dasis from Alachua said that it was the best "istagosthi" they'd been to in many years, and later signed up to participate on the National IRG board. There was an almost unanimous consensus to protect brotherly relations within and without of ISKCON. That evening we had a dinner party with good vibes and prasad all around. The meeting had enlivened and enlightened many of us as to the scope of this "movement within the movement." We played a video tape from LA devotees headed by Yasodanandana Prabhu and read letters of support from Narasingha, Praghosa, Nityananda (SD), Visoka and others.

ISKCON official reaction was swift and clear. The Temple board of 7 members sent an open letter of no support and a warning about any provocative behavior, disallowing even a posting on the bulletin board of the IRG convention. Nanda dasi, TP of Alachua, was considerate in allowing delegates to attend and take prasad at the Temple, and allowing the "heretics" to sponsor the Sunday feast prasad.. GBC representatives Ravindra Svarupa, Virabahu, Bhakti Tirtha Swami, Hrdayananda Swami and Jayapataka Swami all came to Alachua and spoke at the Temple, obviously to rebut the Reform Group's quoting of Srila Prabhupada. We have since heard that the Alachua Temple board has offered a meeting with the leaders of the rittvik camp, and that an emergency GBC meeting has been called for November, not to acknowledge or discuss the proposals of the growing opposition, but to strategize as to how to win more devotee support for the current management of ISKCON.

Convention attendees became quite disturbed at a Temple Sunday feast lecture admonishing against the "worship of disembodied entities," and at the speaker's response to a "rittvik" challenge of "Why force devotees to accept conditioned souls as gurus?" with the rhetorical yet shocking question of "How do we know that Srila Prabhupada was liberated?" (see VNN story #2361)

On Sunday also, there was another question and answer session, followed by a signing of allegiance to Srila Prabhupada's Final Order of July 9, 1977. Krishnakant previewed the latest changes in GBC policy for a diminished guru status, and their possible intentions to excommunicate "rittvik" adherents and proponents. Delegates broke into committees and established local offices of IRG in Canada and the USA, with plans for a National office in Alachua. Less people attended on Sunday, reserved for activists to make future plans. The next group meeting will be an International Convention in Sri Vrindavan Dhama in late October on the occasion of Srila Prabhupada's Disappearance Festival. Talk of a convention in LA for Dec. 6-7 has begun. Devotees everywhere who believe in the validity of the Final Order or who wish ISKCON to open their doors for at least discussion of the issues that the growing hundreds of devotees have faith in, are asked to correspond with any member of IRG and sign up to support and congregate for our society to go back to Srila Prabhupada's original system of initiation.

On Monday morning, separate from the conference, a large group of IRG members and ISKCON representatives went to a recording studio to hear enhanced tapes of "poison" discussions by Srila Prabhupada in the last days of his physical life, along with conversations and whispers in English. A unanimous consensus was that the statements were relevant and serious. Some think it elucidates the guru circumstances since the advent of the "post-disembodied Prabhupada era."

Some unfortunately think of the attendees as heretics out to destroy their own spiritual masters. Some think we can live within ISKCON with both initiation systems operating simultaneously. Some continue to fight with each other over guru-tattva, with excommunications and assumptions of insincerity on both sides, resulting.

This letter is not an IRG statement, but a general, eyewitness account. Let's all sincerely pray to Srila Prabhupada, become increasingly more devoted to his God-sent words, and remain positive about the future of our mission to spread the chanting of the Holy Names : Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna, Hare Hare/Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare. Thank you.

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