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02/22/98 - 1633
Give Jayadvaita Swami the "Benefit of the Doubt"?
USA (VNN) - Letters from Krishnakant, Madhudvisa dasa and Nara Narayan
Vishwakarma das
From: Krishnakant
Subject: What Have You Got to Hide?
Dear Madhudvisa Prabhu, Please accept my humble obeisances. All
glories to Srila Prabhupada.
I think the Bhagavad Gita changes debate is bearing fruit since
every point you have made Dravida has felt compelled to reply.
I think having exposed the changes, the issue now as you have
correctly pointed out is, -"We are willing to give Jayadwaita
the benefit of the doubt, but why not release the original source
material and clear this up once and for all".
If everything is in line with the original, then as you have said
what have they got to hide?
Your Servant,
Krishnakant
Dear Krishnakant Prabhu
Haribol! Please accept my humble obeisances! All glories to Srila
Prabhupada!
Yes. The ball is in their court now. We have shown in many cases
the meaning of the text in the "Revised and Enlarged" edition
of Srila Prabhupada's "Bhagavad-gita As It Is" significantly differs
from the meaning of the original text in the book personally used
and approved of by Srila Prabhupada. Some differences have been
listed at <http://www.sudarsana.com/ISKCON/BookChanges>.
So it is now up to the BBT to make public the source material
which justifies so many changes. If they fail to make such material
public then the question remains, "What have they got to hide?"
But, having said this, it is still greatly perplexing to me why,
if the original editors made so many unauthorized changes to Srila
Prabhupada's original manuscript which Jayadvaita has corrected
for us in the "Revised and Enlarged" edition, why did he not mention
any of these "big changes" in his critique on the original editors
work? Why has he only mentioned a few relatively insignificant
changes and not mentioned any of the "big changes" at all?
The other important point is the BBT are now "Revising and Enlarging"
Srila Prabhupada's books. Not just editing them as they did in
Srila Prabhupada's physical presence. The justification for these
wholesale revisions to Srila Prabhupada's books is one sentence
taken from one of Srila Prabhupada's letters where Srila Prabhupada
says whatever Jayadvaita Swami does is all right. However these
letters are written to specific devotees at specific times and
places and can not be taken as absolute instructions for all time
and all places.
The Bhagavad-gita "Revision and Enlargement" was done at the height
of the Zonal Acarya days and things were VERY different in ISKCON
and the BBT than when Srila Prabhupada wrote the letter the BBT
use to justify Jayadvaita's freedom to change Srila Prabhupada's
books any way he feels like with no checks and balances. It would
seem ISKCON have placed the whole future credibility of the organization
in the hands of one person. It is a very dangerous situation.
Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!
Your servant
Madhudvisa dasa
From: Nathan Zakheim <zakheim@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Give Jayadvaita Swami the "Benefit of the Doubt"?
Dear Prabhus:
PAMHO AGTSP!
When an author declares that his writing is finished, and that
the editing is accepted by him, and that the typos (if any) are
not objectionable, then the readership can pick on of two choices:
1. Accept the author's work at face value without rejecting parts
of it. (Srila Prabhupada has stated in CC that even if a great
sadhu makes a "mistake",that mistake is also honored due to the
stature of the sadhu.)
2. One can reject the writer for creating a work that is flawed
in a way that the reader finds that they cannot accept.
According to copyright law, it is not allowable for changes to
be made in a copyrighted book. If I do not like some of the passages
written by Mark Twain, it does not give me the right to eliminate
or "enlarge" on such passages. In the case of Mark Twain, the
idea would be ridiculous. Who would dare to change the approved
published volume of the great Mark Twain?
I was present and actively engaged in aspects of the development
of Srila Prabhupada's books. I knew all of the editors both personally
and well. I was aware of the type of things that Srila Prabhupada
did not like, and the type of things that he left to the discretion
of His editors.
When you have a prissy, ultra-retentive person such as Jayadvaita
Swami watching for years in impotent horror as a totally debauched
(even depraved) person such as Hayagriva edited away in a beach
cottage in Ensenada Mexico while living a life that could (or
at least should) make any member in good standing of any Iskcon
Temple cringe, you can imagine the level of OUTRAGE and ENVY that
such a person would feel when they felt that THEY were much more
qualified to do the job!
Why did Srila Prabhupada pick Hayagriva instead of Jayadvaita
in the first place?
WHO KNOWS!!!
I certainly did not like his editing!
I loved Srila Prabhupada's wonderful Transcendental turns of phrase
and linguistic quaintness.
I resented Hayagriva's editing.
SRILA PRABHUPADA DID NOT!
He said that "Whatever Hayagiva has edited is good".
I DISAGREE WITH ANY CONCLUSION THAT GIVES CHANGES A BENEFIT OF
THE DOUBT!
There is NO reason to give Jayadvaita Swami the benefit of the
doubt. Jayadvaita Swami is filled with ENVY of Hayagriva and Rayarama
as well as the other AUTHORIZED editors of Srila Prabhupada's
books. If not, then how can he DARE to overturn the DIRECT REQUEST
of our Guru Maharaja?
NO AUTHOR GIVES EVEN HIS BEST EDITOR THE RIGHT TO CHANGE HIS COPYRIGHTED
AND PUBLISHED BOOKS POSTHUMOUSLY. In the case of Srila Prabhupada,
the idea of Him approving post-Samadhi changes is insane.
SRILA PRABHUPADA READ ALL OF HIS BOOKS AND LECTURED ON THEM. Who
is going to step forward and accuse Srila Prabhupada of being
incompetent to hear discrepancies in his own books? I was present
when He would find a discrepancy in the Srimad Bhagavatam. He
immediately stopped the reading and requested that a responsible
person take down the error and have it corrected in the next edition!
(A person such as Rameshwara)
I ASSURE YOU that the idea of changing Srila Prabhupada's books
was repugnant to him. He REPEATEDLY DENOUNCED any proposed changes
in his books ON PRINCIPAL.
Those who feel that they are authorized to make post-humus changes
subscribe to a current and very pernicious HERESY.
Such persons do not accept the ABSOLUTE AUTHORITY of Srila Prabhupada.
They do not see them selves as UNDER HIS AUTHORITY as Spiritual
Master.
THEIR HERESY is their perception that the Vedas are greater than
any individual practitioner of them. They see the work that Srila
Prabhupada did in a different light than that of an actual disciple.
They believe that since the Vedas are greater than any individual
practitioner, even Srila Prabhupada,(All fall short of the Glory
of 'God) that it takes a collective or communal effort to "get
it right"
CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT IS GOING THROUGH THEIR HEADS?
"Srila Prabhupada didn't have enough TIME to get it right"
"Srila Prabhupada JUST COULDN'T SEE that his editors were not
up to the standard"
"Srila Prabhupada was just ATTACHED to Hayagriva"
"Srila Prabhupada was an OLD MAN FROM INDIA and DIDN'T UNDERSTAND
many things in the western world that WE OF COURSE UNDERSTAND
since we are from the west.
I was exposed to this type of horrible anti-spiritual swill for
all of my days and years amongst the chronically disobedient and
heretical Iskcon leaders who went on to become GBC members and
then puffed them selves up into "infallible bona fide spiritual
masters" in 1978.
The heresy of the Vedas being greater than the Acharya is a direct
gift from the Gaudiya Math and the camps of Sridhara Maharaja
and Narayan Maharaja. The current followers of these heretics
have even drawn a picture of a big circle of GREAT VAISHNAVA ACHARYAS
that shows Srila Prabhupada as an obscure member of that large
circle.
BY SO DOING, THE HERETICS PLACE THEMSELVES ON THE SAME LEVEL AS
THE ACHARYA.
I am not amazed that Jayadvaita Swami has changed the books.
I AM AMAZED THAT HE SOMEHOW FEELS THAT HE HAS THE RIGHT TO DO
SO!
No actual disciple would dare to do such a thing. His respect
for his Guru Maharaja would make it impossible. ONLY WHEN A MAN
FEELS EQUAL TO HIS GURU CAN HE UNDERTAKE SUCH A TASK.
I think that everyone would love to see a non-edited manuscript
published as the source material for each and every book. Scholars
would love to pore over such writings five hundred or a thousand
years from now.
Errata can be footnoted and enclosed at the back of a volume.
A guide to errors can be published alongside the original volume
(under the name of the editor, not the name of the Author.)
Essentially, Jayadvaita Swami is writing HIS words under the name
of Srila Prabhupada, as though HE were HIS DIVINE GRACE A C BHAKTIVEDANTA
SWAMI PRABHUPADA!
In Short, HE THINKS THAT HE IS SRILA PRABHUPADA. This is a Mayavadi
conclusion.
I have begun a lawsuit together with several other concerned disciples
of Srila Prabhupada to demand that the books be restored to their
original condtion as approved by the Author.
I fully support the publication of any and all of Srila Prabhupada's
source material and work in-progress.
I would also fully support Jayadvaita Swami if he were to take
the same source material as Srila Prabhupada and wrote his own
version with his own purports, and his own translation and transliteration.
He could call it "The Bhagavad Gita as it REALLY is"
or, "The Bhagavad Gita as it was meant to be"
Or even, "The Bhagavad Gita as it WOULD have been if Srila Prabhupada
had not overlooked so many REALLY OBVIOUS mistakes (that I certainly
caught RIGHT away)"
In the end there will be a line "drawn in the sand".
Srila Prabhupada is ABSOLUTE.
He is NON DIFFERENT from Krishna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead.
This will be the demand:
DO YOU ACCEPT, OR DO YOU NOT ACCEPT?
Either He is or is not absolute. There is no compromise position.
If Srila Prabhupada IS absolute, then Jayadvaita Swami had better
put things back where he found them before he gets into REAL trouble!
If Iskcon and the GBC conclude that Srila Prabhupada is NOT absolute,
well.........they can continue doing the same sort of things that
they are doing right now. They will not need to change themselves
at all.
Your eternal servant,
Nara Narayan Vishwakarma das
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