12/25/97 - 1426

Isa Das Responds to Chakra

USA (VNN) - Chakra writes:

"But then, the question comes up, Why are Isa das's tapes different from the tapes in the archives? When Satsvarupa Maharaja returned to the United States from India, he gave the orginal tapes to Isa to deliver to the archives. Isa ostensibly made copies for himself and sent the originals, as directed. Then why the difference?"
(end quote)

Hare Krsna
All Glories To Srila Prabhupada!
Please accept my humble obeisances

Dear Ranajit and now Chakra,
I was preparing an answer to your question about the tapes when I was told about Chakra's statements about my feelings for Srila Prabhupada. Let me first state for the record that the tapes you sent me (44,45,46) seem to be the same as the tapes I have. Thank you for explaining the difference between these and those sent to Perle. I will inform the IVC group and VNN that from now on all copies should be ordered from the BBT Archives. I have only sent out 5 copies and only 1 of those was paid for (no profit).

Note to Chakra, Please publish my complete letter so that the world Vaisnava community can draw their own conclutions as to my intent and feelings about Srila Prabhupada.
I came to my conclusions after letting more then 15 different Hindi speaking Indians listen to tape 44, at different times and places and over 60 hours of lab work on the wispers.
If I am accused of being offensive to Srila Prabhupada because I am saying he was poisoned then you are accusing Srila Prabhupada of the same offense, because he stated "my Guru Maharaja also" (was poisoned).

Your servant,
Isa das


Complete letter:

From: Isa das
A few questions from tapes 44 and 46

A.
Tape 46
Long pause I'll drink milk what about strength is optional (then a strange noise as if Srila Prabhupada is being mocked) this sound clip can be found on the VNN.

Conversations book and folio transcript of the same
passage.
Srila Prabhupada: No No , he's sincere. I'll drink milk.
Whatever strength is obtainable, there will be.

Why is Srila Prabhupada asking if milk is optional.
It should be noted that the whisper "the poison is going
down" and "is the poison in the milk" are before and after
Srila Prabhupada's question..

B.
The next statement that can be heard is

Page 373. Jayapataka: "Like to follow the same treatment,
only while traveling."

Where does this sentence fit in and to whom is it
addressed? It is addressed to no one.

The next sentence is from Hamsaduta "So we should meet and make a program for going around Vrndavana." This question is addressed to Srila Prabhupada, who replies "yes". As I have explained before Perle labs said that the tapes are not representative of the actual events and conversations taking place.
In fact pages can be heard turning as if a script is being read.

C.
Another point to consider:
Page 378.
Jagadisa: "Srila Prabhupada, can you tell us why you want
to go on the parikrama?"
Bhakti- caru: (Bengali) Break
Srila Prabhupada: "Good paddy"
Tamal Krsna: This seems like suicide ...
Srila Prabhupada: And this is also suicidal.
Tamal Krsna ... Now you have to choose which suicide.

This suicide point and the next points Srila Prabhupada brings up about Ram and Ravana have been discussed before. But it is strange that Srila Prabhupada says he wants to go on parikrama to eat good PADDY or rice. The topic is not discussed further. But if you read the last paragraph of the purport of Bhagavad Gita, Chapter 1 Verse 1, we find what Srila Prabhupada may be implying by "good
paddy"
"Both the Pandavas and the sons of Dhrtarastra belong to the same family, but Dhrtarastra's mind is disclosed herein. He deliberately claimed only his sons as Kurus, and he separated the sons of Pandu from the family heritage. One can thus understand the specific position of Dhrtarastra in relationship with his nephews, the sons of
Pandu. As in the paddy field the unnecessary plants are taken out and real paddy plants are shoved in, so it is expected from the very beginning of these topics that in the religious field of Kuruksetra, where the father of religion, Sri Krsna, was present, the unwanted plants, Dhrtarastra's son Duryodhana and others, would be wiped
out and thoroughly religious persons, headed by Yudhisthira, would be established by the Lord.

d.
Another point that should be considered is the statement by Tamal Krsna Goswami from tape 44. (the first minutes of the tape)
After Srila Prabhupada talks about his poisoning, Tamal Krsna Goswami makes the comment "Krsna das". And then asks "who said that Srila Prabhupada" refering to the poison. Why is Krsna das's name given up so quickly?

Although, Krsna das, Srila Prabhupada's godbrother may be involved. It may be his giggle that can be heard in the first whisper on tape 46 "the poison is going down, giggle, the poison is going down" and again he can be heard chanting at the end of the tape, while the statement "Poison Ishvaya Rasa" is spoken with Srila Prabhupada responding "ME" and then someone says "take it easy, get ready to go"

E. Another question that has been asked.
Why on these 20 tapes recording Srila Prabhupada's last weeks, hours and Minutes, practically, the only conversations taking place are about whether to do as Srila Prabhupada asks, such as go on the parikrama or pound, shelling and pence talk. Why were we not allowed to fill Srila Prabhupada's ears with KRSNA Katha and our final questions? Why did he have to leave us hearing "take it easy, get ready to go"?