11/18/97 - 1237
Audio Clip of 2nd Whisper and Updates
USA (VNN) - VNN has received many requests to post a more complete
sound clip to better understand the context of the controversial
whispers. Here is a sound file (142 seconds) that contains the
2 whispers under investigation:
Srila Prabhupada: "Hmm"
About 7 seconds into the clip there is a whisper which is currently
being analyzed: ".... is going down" (that is what we hear)
Person: Giggles
Jayapataka: (speaks about kaviraja)
Srila Prabhupada: "I drink milk?"
Towards the end of this clip is the controversial "poison" whisper.
Two Whisper Sound WAV file (142 seconds - 3MB)
Maha Buddhi prabhu's report explains what follows: "Also, listening later on in the tape
shortly after "Poison in the Milk" part, actually Bhakti Caru
Maharaja asks Srila Prabhupada in Bengali if he would like milk?
Srila Prabhupada agrees, he drinks, and Bhakti Caru asks if it
is too hot and Srila Prabhupada answers no it is extremely sweet!"
VNN had raised the question of a potential conflict of interest
that could arise from Balavanta prabhu's role as head of the "Prabhupada
Poison Investigation" and his role as former, current or future
legal council for ISKCON:
His reply was 11/17/97:
I have not directly represented ISKCON in the time frame mentioned
(currently, previous and next 6 months) except as consultant in
the Murphy case in Boston which is not related and is now settled.
In any event, I see no conflict in an internal investigation such
as this and my own complete loyalty to ISKCON which has been demonstrated
over the past 27 years.
My investigation is completely independent although I was asked
by the GBC to investigate. My insistence on the distribution of
the preliminary whisper evidence was a product of my independence.
I expect word from the more advanced labs any day. In fact I thought
I would have had it by now.
I hope it will turn out to be an audio illusion and I can be merely
criticized for pushing the panic button while the society breathes
a collective sigh of relief. If not, then the matter is certainly
serious. Rest assured that I will communicate the results as they
are available.
Your servant,
Balavanta das
Letters 11/17/97:
Bir Krishna Swami writes:
"I still hear the same thing: "That's not part of the treatment."
I only hear the poison thing when I am some distance from the
speakers. When I am up close or use good headphones (I have top
of the line Sennheisers) I hear the statement about treatment.
What can I do. I have tried my best to hear the poison statement
but it disappears when I listen closely as above mentioned."
Letter by (author's name withheld on request):
"(author) was in Vrindavan and often in Prabhupada's room during
his last days.
As far as someone poisoning Prabhupada, I don't know. I did hear
him say something to that effect but remember that he was about
80 lbs when he died and was in excruciating pain. Although for
someone in his condition he was unbelievably calm, pain can make
a person say just about anything. There was no doubt that the
man was suffering intensely not only in body but in spirit too.
His doctor was a very kind man who in my estimation would not
ever harm the hair on anyone's head and he predicted to the second
when Prabhupada would die so I think he would be aware of anyone
poisoning him. Has anyone contacted him? He wasn't that old then
and could be still alive.
One thing that crosses my mind is that the cause of death given
at the time was kidney failure due to an untreated diabetic condition.
I know that kidney failure causes one's body to blow up like a
balloon legs first. I didn't see that with Prabhupada. He really
exhibited the symptoms of severe mercury poisoning. He was so
emaciated that I couldn't believe he could hold on as long as
he did. His limbs and muscles would spasm and when I touched him,
he was cool and clammy sometimes and hot and dry at others. His
muscle pains were severe and required constant massage. I'm no
doctor and realize that his symptoms could have been caused by
a myriad of things. The way he looked when he died brought the
victims of the Minamata mercury spill to mind.
Narayana Maharaja was there and he had a calming influence. They
consulted in Hindi and Bengali and the only thing that I remember
hearing was that Prabhupada said, "I created a monster but it's
too late to do anything about it." Narayana Maharaja told him
not to worry, that he had done his best and now it was Mahaprabhu's
responsibility. Has anyone asked Narayana Maharaja what his opinion
is about the poisoning theory?"
Astrology debate continues:
Hari Sauri writes (A Transcendental Diary Vol 1 - page 78):
"An astrological researcher wrote from London asking for Srila
Prabhupadas time and date of birth. Prabhupada obliged him. Regarding
your question about my birth. I was born September 1, 1896, Tuesday
at about 4:00 in the afternoon. My rasi is Mithuna."
Robert A. Koch writes: (see text at: http://bmw.autobahn.org/~iskcon/docs/astro.html)
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